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Post by Dash on Mar 16, 2009 11:54:13 GMT -8
You'd be surprised at how many teams are undisciplined. Especially in England I'd almost guarantee that most teams will be undisciplined. It can be very effective. If they show they can beat it several times in a row, then you back off. Until then, you press the crap out of them. My high school team's fatal weakness was the press unfortunately. We didn't have point guards who could handle it well. That's true. Will's team will probably be going up against a glut of inexperienced, undisciplined players. Will, you should watch Louisville on TV if you get the chance. They run the best full-court press right now in college basketball. Of course, you don't have a bunch of tall, athletic players like they do, haha, but it's still very effective. Run a full-court trap. It sounds like you at least have the bodies to plug in should your team get a little tired. Make sure your team is well conditioned though if you're planning on applying pressure throughout the whole game. And work on defense a lot! I like to stay away from full court presses unless you have ridiculous athletes who can make it work. You have to be able to rotate perfectly to make up for your lack of athleticism, and if you get beat it essentially turns into a fast break for the other team. In the half court you don't have to be quite as athletic to pull it off.
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Post by Dash on Mar 16, 2009 11:55:28 GMT -8
I'm sure thats exactly the kind of kids Will is going to be coaching haha. I've heard Will has recruited Earl Clark and Terrence Williams to play for him. Who needs him when you have J-Mychael Reese! He was actually starting for his father this year at Bryan High School as a freshman. He was playing pretty well.
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Post by AllHailManiac on Mar 16, 2009 12:00:25 GMT -8
That's true. Will's team will probably be going up against a glut of inexperienced, undisciplined players. Will, you should watch Louisville on TV if you get the chance. They run the best full-court press right now in college basketball. Of course, you don't have a bunch of tall, athletic players like they do, haha, but it's still very effective. Run a full-court trap. It sounds like you at least have the bodies to plug in should your team get a little tired. Make sure your team is well conditioned though if you're planning on applying pressure throughout the whole game. And work on defense a lot! I like to stay away from full court presses unless you have ridiculous athletes who can make it work. You have to be able to rotate perfectly to make up for your lack of athleticism, and if you get beat it essentially turns into a fast break for the other team. In the half court you don't have to be quite as athletic to pull it off. I don't. I like to press the shit out of people, haha.
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Post by Marty on Mar 16, 2009 12:01:35 GMT -8
There are so many variations to the flex offense you have infinite freedom to run what you want. It's basic, and is easy to learn. You get your kids to learn that THAN you move on to a motion offense. I'm probably a little biased because I ran that my freshman year of high school and didn't feel is was very effective for us. It can be a good learning tool like I said though. You are going to want to learn two offenses for your team. One "man" offense and one "zone" offense. Try to learn a generic zone offense which will work again any zone so once again they only have to master one. yeah I agree with you, you're irght.
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Post by Dash on Mar 16, 2009 12:02:37 GMT -8
I like to stay away from full court presses unless you have ridiculous athletes who can make it work. You have to be able to rotate perfectly to make up for your lack of athleticism, and if you get beat it essentially turns into a fast break for the other team. In the half court you don't have to be quite as athletic to pull it off. I don't. I like to press the shit out of people, haha. Honestly, I'd rather not press at all. Give me some good old fashioned aggressive half court defense. Thats what I grew up around and got drilled into me as a youngster and I've carried that over to my own personal philosophy. Don't gamble. I HATE when kids gamble.
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Post by hype on Mar 16, 2009 12:27:20 GMT -8
if you can get your team to really buy into and master a press, other teams at that age will not be able to handle it. maybe even work on a trap too. focus on d.
and my fave drill was always the 3on2/2on1, but i dont about this weave/touch the will business dash is talking about. we only had 3 lines. 2 guys would already be down there playing d, and when they get the ball back its the guy in the middle lane or the point that plays d on the way back while the other 2 wait for the next group.
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Post by hype on Mar 16, 2009 12:34:36 GMT -8
ok, well i guess my advice ended up being the exact same as dashes hahaha. anyways i agree that 1-2-2 is the way to go on the press, but i dunno about falling back into that zone. id keep it simple with the 2-3.
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Post by ducky on Mar 16, 2009 14:26:46 GMT -8
I coach my school basketball team. We have a few decent players and we have pretty good depth. However, we don't have a 'star player' who we can rely on to score. At the moment, we have no game plan. The team just heads down the court and eventually someone jacks up a shot (which usually misses). Our best player is a stocky 5'8" point guard. He's a good dribbler but not a reliable scorer. We have a young 6'1" (i.e. a forward at this level) defensive expert who has a developing offensive game. He has a lot of potential. I won't bore you with the rest of our team. Does anyone have any tips or advice? Any drills we should be doing? Any simple game tactics that we could utilise? Any suggestions, please throw them my way Thanks folks. Sweet, Will's a coach too. I coach a 10th grade basketball team, we went 10-0 and won the championship. We have this 6'6" white dude on our team that just pwns. All I can say is practice makes perfect. You don't even need much plays, but you gotta build team chemistry.. Also:PRESSURE. If you can run the perfect press, you'll win every game. We'd always be close at halftime in our games, then we'd kick up the press and run away by 20 points.
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Post by Spencer on Mar 16, 2009 14:42:53 GMT -8
Watch the movie Hoosiers.
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Post by Spencer on Mar 16, 2009 14:44:26 GMT -8
I coach my school basketball team. We have a few decent players and we have pretty good depth. However, we don't have a 'star player' who we can rely on to score. At the moment, we have no game plan. The team just heads down the court and eventually someone jacks up a shot (which usually misses). Our best player is a stocky 5'8" point guard. He's a good dribbler but not a reliable scorer. We have a young 6'1" (i.e. a forward at this level) defensive expert who has a developing offensive game. He has a lot of potential. I won't bore you with the rest of our team. Does anyone have any tips or advice? Any drills we should be doing? Any simple game tactics that we could utilise? Any suggestions, please throw them my way Thanks folks. Sweet, Will's a coach too. I coach a 10th grade basketball team, we went 10-0 and won the championship. We have this 6'6" white dude on our team that just pwns. All I can say is practice makes perfect. You don't even need much plays, but you gotta build team chemistry.. Also:PRESSURE. If you can run the perfect press, you'll win every game. We'd always be close at halftime in our games, then we'd kick up the press and run away by 20 points. I think any teams at lower levels can be dominant i their defense is tight. Meaning pressing alot, and switching from man to man to zone at will and being great at both. Obviously this means using your depth well. Easier said then done.
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Post by Dash on Mar 16, 2009 17:06:46 GMT -8
I coach my school basketball team. We have a few decent players and we have pretty good depth. However, we don't have a 'star player' who we can rely on to score. At the moment, we have no game plan. The team just heads down the court and eventually someone jacks up a shot (which usually misses). Our best player is a stocky 5'8" point guard. He's a good dribbler but not a reliable scorer. We have a young 6'1" (i.e. a forward at this level) defensive expert who has a developing offensive game. He has a lot of potential. I won't bore you with the rest of our team. Does anyone have any tips or advice? Any drills we should be doing? Any simple game tactics that we could utilise? Any suggestions, please throw them my way Thanks folks. Sweet, Will's a coach too. I coach a 10th grade basketball team, we went 10-0 and won the championship. We have this 6'6" white dude on our team that just pwns. All I can say is practice makes perfect. You don't even need much plays, but you gotta build team chemistry.. Also:PRESSURE. If you can run the perfect press, you'll win every game. We'd always be close at halftime in our games, then we'd kick up the press and run away by 20 points. Ducky how do you coach a 10th grade basketball team? Is it some kind of rec league?
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Post by Marty on Mar 16, 2009 17:09:39 GMT -8
ducky lives in la la land
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Post by ducky on Mar 16, 2009 17:24:28 GMT -8
Sweet, Will's a coach too. I coach a 10th grade basketball team, we went 10-0 and won the championship. We have this 6'6" white dude on our team that just pwns. All I can say is practice makes perfect. You don't even need much plays, but you gotta build team chemistry.. Also:PRESSURE. If you can run the perfect press, you'll win every game. We'd always be close at halftime in our games, then we'd kick up the press and run away by 20 points. Ducky how do you coach a 10th grade basketball team? Is it some kind of rec league? Ya Portland competitive recreational basketball league. Lots of guys who made the freshman team that either didn't make JV/Varisty OR decided to play a different sport in HS. So basically the left overs. Some damn good players though for 10th graders.
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Post by insane on Mar 16, 2009 17:49:09 GMT -8
For man offense, you should probably run motion. Against zones, go with a 1-3-1.
On defense, should probably go with that 1-2-2 halfcourt zone and trap that was mentioned before with your 6'1 guy at the top. Or a swarming 2-3 zone, with constant trapping on the wings from the bottom and top. Your guys need to be really fast and preferably have long arms for that to work. When you really need to get a stop though, throw all the other junk defenses out the window, aggressive ball-denial man to man is the way to go.
Oh, and your team is short? so you have to stress the importance of boxing out. Any missed box outs you notice in scrimmage, they have to run for that. That, and conditioning will make or break a team.
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Post by KG on Mar 16, 2009 18:11:01 GMT -8
I always thought Will would coach a girl's team.
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