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Post by CC on Feb 2, 2009 8:02:21 GMT -8
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Post by AllHailManiac on Feb 2, 2009 12:23:40 GMT -8
Good game, certainly some questionable calls. I've never seen the running into the holder penalty called before. It turned out to not really be a big deal, but a ridiculous call regardless. I was surprised it took Arizona so long to throw the ball to Fitzgerald. I don't see any reason why the play that Harrison picked off wasn't a fade to Fitz. I can't see him losing a jump ball in the end zone, and I certainly can't see him allowing an interception. That's probably because you've never seen someone actually run into the holder before. He's just as defenseless as the kicker. That's a no-brainer call.
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Post by Jeff on Feb 2, 2009 14:47:28 GMT -8
Good game, certainly some questionable calls. I've never seen the running into the holder penalty called before. It turned out to not really be a big deal, but a ridiculous call regardless. I was surprised it took Arizona so long to throw the ball to Fitzgerald. I don't see any reason why the play that Harrison picked off wasn't a fade to Fitz. I can't see him losing a jump ball in the end zone, and I certainly can't see him allowing an interception. That's probably because you've never seen someone actually run into the holder before. He's just as defenseless as the kicker. That's a no-brainer call. Sorry man, that's not a no-brainer call. I've been trying to find the actual rule for a few minutes, but no luck. It's a weak call in the Super Bowl, especially since the guy made the kick. I'd also like to congratulate Berger for his fantastic job at drawing ridiculous penalties. The roughing the punter call against the Steelers was one of the biggest flops I've seen in a long time.
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Post by AllHailManiac on Feb 2, 2009 15:18:43 GMT -8
That's probably because you've never seen someone actually run into the holder before. He's just as defenseless as the kicker. That's a no-brainer call. Sorry man, that's not a no-brainer call. I've been trying to find the actual rule for a few minutes, but no luck. It's a weak call in the Super Bowl, especially since the guy made the kick. I'd also like to congratulate Berger for his fantastic job at drawing ridiculous penalties. The roughing the punter call against the Steelers was one of the biggest flops I've seen in a long time. It is a no-brainer call. He hit a guy on one knee with his head down. Completely defenseless. Of all the calls in this game that was probably the easiest to make. It was a boneheaded play by Wilson.
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Post by Jeff on Feb 2, 2009 15:26:39 GMT -8
Sorry man, that's not a no-brainer call. I've been trying to find the actual rule for a few minutes, but no luck. It's a weak call in the Super Bowl, especially since the guy made the kick. I'd also like to congratulate Berger for his fantastic job at drawing ridiculous penalties. The roughing the punter call against the Steelers was one of the biggest flops I've seen in a long time. It is a no-brainer call. He hit a guy on one knee with his head down. Completely defenseless. Of all the calls in this game that was probably the easiest to make. It was a boneheaded play by Wilson. It wasn't the worst call of the game, but I think you're over dramatizing it. It's not like he lit him up, it was a weak call. I still can't find the rule, I want to see read the actual language.
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Post by northerner on Feb 2, 2009 15:37:05 GMT -8
You really take the Steelers cap off Maniac - Wilson tripped trying to block the kick and His momentum carried him into the Holder, not exactly deliberate. However, the worst call on that drive was the supposed roughing the passer penalty - Ben had run away and thrown a pass earlier in the game (the one to Miller, were he danced for 10 secs) from a similar position, what's he supposed to do, let him do it aain?
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Post by Jeff on Feb 2, 2009 15:42:25 GMT -8
You really take the Steelers cap off Maniac - Wilson tripped trying to block the kick and His momentum carried him into the Holder, not exactly deliberate. However, the worst call on that drive was the supposed roughing the passer penalty - Ben had run away and thrown a pass earlier in the game (the one to Miller, were he danced for 10 secs) from a similar position, what's he supposed to do, let him do it aain? I'm not saying the actual interpretation of the rule was right or wrong, mostly because I haven't read the exact language of the rule. I'd say it's a pretty dubious call though. Nothing was affected, it was obviously accidental contact by a guy who tripped coming around the end. The roughing the passer call was awful though.
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Post by AllHailManiac on Feb 2, 2009 17:11:33 GMT -8
You really take the Steelers cap off Maniac - Wilson tripped trying to block the kick and His momentum carried him into the Holder, not exactly deliberate. However, the worst call on that drive was the supposed roughing the passer penalty - Ben had run away and thrown a pass earlier in the game (the one to Miller, were he danced for 10 secs) from a similar position, what's he supposed to do, let him do it aain? Intent has nothing to do with making a call. He ran over a defenseless player. They'd call that every time.
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Post by James on Feb 2, 2009 17:15:54 GMT -8
Who won?
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Post by AllHailManiac on Feb 2, 2009 17:43:09 GMT -8
Steelers.
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Post by creationdraft on Feb 2, 2009 18:16:31 GMT -8
great superbowl
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Post by Jeff on Feb 2, 2009 18:43:33 GMT -8
You really take the Steelers cap off Maniac - Wilson tripped trying to block the kick and His momentum carried him into the Holder, not exactly deliberate. However, the worst call on that drive was the supposed roughing the passer penalty - Ben had run away and thrown a pass earlier in the game (the one to Miller, were he danced for 10 secs) from a similar position, what's he supposed to do, let him do it aain? Intent has nothing to do with making a call. He ran over a defenseless player. They'd call that every time. Ran over? Stop being such a homer, it was a weak call and you know it. Berger did a fantastic job selling it. I could really care less about the Super Bowl, but I think Steelers fan need to take the blinders off for a second. If they don't think that Pittsburgh received quite a bit of help from the ref's then they are kidding themselves.
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Post by AllHailManiac on Feb 2, 2009 18:46:14 GMT -8
Intent has nothing to do with making a call. He ran over a defenseless player. They'd call that every time. Ran over? Stop being such a homer, it was a weak call and you know it. Berger did a fantastic job selling it. I could really care less about the Super Bowl, but I think Steelers fan need to take the blinders off for a second. If they don't think that Pittsburgh received quite a bit of help from the ref's then they are kidding themselves. Both teams had calls go against them. The refs didn't decide the game.
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Post by Jeff on Feb 3, 2009 7:44:03 GMT -8
Ran over? Stop being such a homer, it was a weak call and you know it. Berger did a fantastic job selling it. I could really care less about the Super Bowl, but I think Steelers fan need to take the blinders off for a second. If they don't think that Pittsburgh received quite a bit of help from the ref's then they are kidding themselves. Both teams had calls go against them. The refs didn't decide the game. If you really believe that the game was evenly officiated, we can no longer talk about it.
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Post by AllHailManiac on Feb 3, 2009 7:46:32 GMT -8
Works for me. Steelers won. All that matters.
Steelers > Patriots.
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